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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are today&#039;s answers:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No council in the country follows this. Although they pay lip service to it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For some reason, buyers place greater value on west-Brit names. A development with &quot;Earl&quot;, &quot;Wyndham&quot;, &quot;Court&quot; etc. in the name will sell better than &quot;Cois Abhainn&quot;, &quot;Church Field&quot;, &quot;Gleann na Rí&quot; etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The developers know this and are at fault for propagating the trend. Marketing: 90%&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Should the council object they are offered perks such as a larger development levy. Corruption: 5%&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Both estates mentioned in my post were built at about the same time. When I queried the choice of names with the council I was told that the lands had at one time been owned by Rochford the Earl of Kildare.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I pointed out that the Earls of Kildare were FitzMaurice, FitzGerald and FitzThomas, and that while there had been a Viscount Rochford there was never an Earl Rochford, the story changed: It seems artifacts (items of horse tack) had been found during site clearance stamped with the name Rochford. I replied again saying that much of the tack used in Ireland in the 17 and 18 hundreds would have been made in Rochford, Essex.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suggested names could have been contrived from the fact both developments were overlooked by Kill Hill; there were bronze age ring barrows nearby; the area was once the seat of the Uí Fáeláin kings; and more. Silence. Ignorance: 5%&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;63&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are today&#8217;s answers:</p>
<p>No council in the country follows this. Although they pay lip service to it.</p>
<p>For some reason, buyers place greater value on west-Brit names. A development with &#8220;Earl&#8221;, &#8220;Wyndham&#8221;, &#8220;Court&#8221; etc. in the name will sell better than &#8220;Cois Abhainn&#8221;, &#8220;Church Field&#8221;, &#8220;Gleann na Rí&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>The developers know this and are at fault for propagating the trend. Marketing: 90%</p>
<p>Should the council object they are offered perks such as a larger development levy. Corruption: 5%</p>
<p>Both estates mentioned in my post were built at about the same time. When I queried the choice of names with the council I was told that the lands had at one time been owned by Rochford the Earl of Kildare.</p>
<p>When I pointed out that the Earls of Kildare were FitzMaurice, FitzGerald and FitzThomas, and that while there had been a Viscount Rochford there was never an Earl Rochford, the story changed: It seems artifacts (items of horse tack) had been found during site clearance stamped with the name Rochford. I replied again saying that much of the tack used in Ireland in the 17 and 18 hundreds would have been made in Rochford, Essex.</p>
<p>I suggested names could have been contrived from the fact both developments were overlooked by Kill Hill; there were bronze age ring barrows nearby; the area was once the seat of the Uí Fáeláin kings; and more. Silence. Ignorance: 5%
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		<title>By: Eolaí gan Fhéile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eolaí gan Fhéile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is the policy of the Council that names of residential developments should reflect local and Irish place names&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is there a council in the country that actually follows this? Or even one in the Great Leinster Conurbation?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And whose fault is that they don&#039;t? The council&#039;s? The developer&#039;s? Ours? Well yours because I don&#039;t live there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And is it because of corruption, ignorance or marketing?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That concludes today&#039;s questions.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;62&#039;,&#039;Eola&#195;&#173; gan Fh&#195;&#169;ile&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is the policy of the Council that names of residential developments should reflect local and Irish place names&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is there a council in the country that actually follows this? Or even one in the Great Leinster Conurbation?</p>
<p>And whose fault is that they don&#8217;t? The council&#8217;s? The developer&#8217;s? Ours? Well yours because I don&#8217;t live there.</p>
<p>And is it because of corruption, ignorance or marketing?</p>
<p>That concludes today&#8217;s questions.
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