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Flirty needs help

Flirty made a plea for help in a comment on my previous post. She wants to set-up her own domain and move her blog there. Now we’re all nice folks so we’re going to help aren’t we? Of course we are. So this is the way it’s going to work: I will set down some stuff here. You will add to it. This includes lurkers - yes, you too - just use a valid email when commenting or else I will end up trawling through Akismet spam to retrieve it. And that will make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.

Anyway, Flirty, the first thing to decide is why you want to move. If you are happy with blogspot.com then stick with it. If something’s not broken, don’t fix it. Self hosting will cost you money. It may not be much depending on how you go about it, but blogspot.com is free.

Okay. So you really do want to move. Grand so. The next step is to purchase your domain. I used Register365. There are many others. For example, Register.ie. Do a Google search. Some will be cheaper than others. (Maybe some reader can offer advice on selecting a registration service).

What type of domain would you like? .com, .net, .ie and so on. I had a preference for either .com or .ie but went for .com for two reasons: .com is cheaper! It cost’s me €9 per year plus VAT whereas .ie is about €70 plus VAT. Also, .ie requires a lot more paperwork. You have to prove you are eligible for one by posting off a bunch of documents. I could possibly have afforded it financially, but I just didn’t have the patience to take on the bureaucracy and wait ages for the domain to go live.

Registering primalsneeze.com was painless with Register365. Within hours it was live. By the way, I paid for 5 years in advance. Be careful about this - some registers will not warn you in time you that you need to renew your subscription and some nasty type could come along and hijack your domain. The dog has promised to nip my ankle on 21 April, 2012 to remind me. I just hope he doesn’t forget. Maybe I should get a pet elephant instead.

Another thing to bear in mind when buying a domain is that the purchaser’s name and other details are automatically made public. Bang goes your anonymity. To get around this you could have someone, or some company, act on your behalf. The snag with this is it could cost, plus they may be viewed as the legal owners of the domain. A really cute-hoor method would be to do what Twenty Major (being an extremely cute hoor) did and use the services of a proxy registration outfit. Similar to getting someone to act on your behalf, almost 100% guarantee of remaining anonymous and almost legal.

The next step is to select a company to host your site. I went for Hosting365 for a number of reasons. As pointed out by Tom Raftery via Kav, they will host your blog for free for 1 year. After that, they may charge. If the dog says the fee is too much I’ll just move. It’s up to him though.

Right. Just stop clicking on all those links and listen! You can come back to them later.

Okay. Grand. I’ll continue. Now bear in mind that what Hosting365 say on the blog for free page is not totally correct. They don’t actually provide WordPress for you. You’ll have to organise that yourself. More on this below.

Another reason I went for 365 is that Hosting365 = Register365. Same company. So I figured the process of getting the domain and having it assigned to a host would go more smoothly. It did. A bunch of emails arrived with passwords and links explaining (most of) what I needed to know.

The main advantage with 365 for me is that my ISP buys their broadband service from them. So for all intents and purposes I have a direct connection to my site, which makes editing so much faster. A skip and a jump instead of a Grand National-esque effort of getting to a server in the US.

So now you have your domain and you have it assigned to a host. From this point, until your blog is actually up and running, things get messy in a techie kind of way. If you aren’t willing to read lots of help pages, aren’t comfortable with the thought of having to create a database and other tricky webby things or aren’t up to figuring out stuff as you go along, well call your mate, the geek and have them take over. If you don’t know a geek, the nice folks over at WordPress have a solution: They will do it all for you! Isn’t that great? You just give them the link to your host’s control panel, your login name and password, and a little time and they will install WordPress for you.

As Flirty claims not be a techie I’m going to assume she will use her local friendly geek or the free install service. I will not go through all the geek stuff about doing it yourself. I can later if anyone’s interested.

Okay. WordPress is now up and running. What’s left to do? A few things..

The main/obvious thing is to bring all your old posts and comments over from blogspot.com. This can be painful. To my knowledge, blogspot.com has no export facility. There are hacks to get around this but then we’re back to needing a geek. Maybe someone knows an easy way to do this. Do ya? Huh?

In my case I had already moved from Blogspot.com to WordPress.com. WordPress.com has a facility where you just plug in yout blogspot.com URL and your login details for it, and WordPress goes off and imports if for you. Moving from WordPress.com to the new site was easy as WordPress.com does have a export facility. Just download to your machine. Go to your new site and import.

So an easy workaround might be to set-up a WordPress.com temporarily. Note that you may need to manually enter your links, but you can leave that until the new site is working rather than entering them in the temporary WordPress.com blog.

I getting tired so I’m going to finish up now. I’ll add more later when I think of it. But before I go just one last thing: If you want to use a different template or fancy plugins you are going to have to learn how to use your host’s control panel to upload them. This is something I will definitely add more info on later.

Oh, and another last thing: Make sure the templates you use are compatible with the version of WordPress you installed (or had installed). I made this mistake and comments got placed under the wrong posts. Very funny reading them, but not really the point.

22 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

  1. Thanks you are star.

    1. irishflirtysomething on May 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pm
  2. Another alternative would be to go to Blacknight where they do the whole shooting shebang for you for a few sheckles a month. Everything set up and all..

    2. Grandad on May 1st, 2007 at 3:19 pm
  3. Yahoo is a pretty decent host too. You get the dot com without having to have the yahoo bit in the URL. I like them because I’m a thicknoramus and not responsible enough to be backing up my site all the time. They do that for you automatically, multiple times daily. They will also keep you up to date with the latest Wordpress versions which is kind of cool. A lot of “back-blog” administrative work is taken care of without your even having to know about it. This is a good thing.

    Best of luck with it, flirty!

    3. problemchildbride on May 1st, 2007 at 8:27 pm
  4. Flirty - Why bother moving? - I use http://www.godaddy.com and only use the redirect service so that the mail remains hosted for free on blogger and I have a nice tidy dotcom name - best of both worlds.

    4. PaddyAnglican on May 1st, 2007 at 11:02 pm
  5. for ‘mail’ read ’site’!

    5. PaddyAnglican on May 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pm
  6. Flirty - I hope you’re getting food for thought here.

    Grandad - Everything set up and all. Yes, if you are starting from a green-field site. I doubt if they will import the stuff from another blog though as Flifty will need done. I could be wrong.

    Sam - That sounds like a really excellent service. I’m impressed.

    Stephen - Neat solution. And nearly the best of both worlds. Folks will link directly to your blogspot.com URL - Most tend to copy & paste addresses from the address bar into their blogroll and bookmark when on that site too. Also, I suspect Flirty wants to get away from blospot.com altogether, but she can clarify this.

    6. Primal Sneeze on May 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 am
  7. Kind of top[ical so I thought I’d pass on this link of a brief guide to a WordPress to WordPress move i.e. a change of host - that Thomas posted earlier today (or yesterday depending on your time zone).

    Also, back at the beginning I’d mention that somebody not convinced about self-hosting should still consider switching from free blog platform to free blog platform - specifically from BlogSpot to WordPress.com Factors like uptime, features available (plugins/widgets), ease of publishing, designs (themes/templates) available, and support available, should all be considered.

    I’d personally suggest that WordPress beats Blogger comfortably in every category though Blogger has greatly improved with that last update.

    And while WordPress’s help files/forum in the form of the Codex is somewhat unwieldy, it does contain the answers and by a community of enthusiasts. Blogger communities can’t match this, and has anyone ever got an answer from Google’s Blogger team? Or read a timely posting on the official status blog as to why you’re having problems?

    7. Eolaí on May 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 am
  8. Thanks for all the advice.

    Ok - have got my URL and a host, just trying to move now. A VERY kind friend is helping me but just need to know if there are any things to watch out for during move.

    8. irishflirtysomething on May 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 am
  9. Congrats, Flirty! You’re sucking diesel, girl! I can’t really offer much more without knowing how competent your buddy is; who your host is; if you’re using WP; what you had for breakfast. But if your mate runs into trouble feel free to post queries here or mail me.

    As Eolaí very wisely points out, the WordPress help files/forum are an excellent source of information. I would have been lost without them. In particular the codex.

    Eolaí also pointed out somewhere else (I can’t remember where though) that the best thing to do it to get the site up and running with the classic/default template first. Only when everything’s working should you go messing with other templates (see my notes on this in the post) and widgets.

    My only advice is to take things slowly. Don’t rush. (I did, but I’ve bugger all patience).

    9. Primal Sneeze on May 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 am
  10. Well, I must admit that the procedure of registering the .ie domain is a pain in the ass. Recently I tried to do a favor for one of my friends and to register domain for Irish Polish Society via one of the Irish hosting companies. I filled the application/registration online form, then I had to choose a purpose of registration of the domain, and finally my 80years old friend had been requested to FAX a letter with an official header of IPS to the registering/hosting company. I am really disappointed!

    Comparing to .pl : registering DOT PL takes only couple of minutes and time for transfer money. There is NO PAPER WORK at all.

    That is the difference between Ireland and Poland:
    1. Poland as a state generating a paper work monster, so everything that is about tax, opening business takes days.
    But our private business services are highly user friendly and simple.

    2. On the contrary - Ireland as a state is user/citizen friendly thousand times more than Poland, but… Irish business and services is thousand miles far behind the services in Poland, and rather making things simple, they generate a lot of paper work.

    10. MacKozer on May 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
  11. Another option on the exporting of BlogSpot contents to your new WordPress blog on your own domain, is to republish your Blogger blog archives to the directory in your brand new domain that you’re putting the WP blog, and then using the import tool in WP.

    You will have to change some settings on BlogSpot before republishing as per the Codex instructions.

    They’re really not too complicated - you point the archives to wherever you’re putting your new WP blog (taking care not to use the same filenames and overwriting things), change the date format, change archive frequency, filename and path, and the big one is to replace your archive template with a couple of supplied lines of code. (After taking a back-up of what you’re about to replace).

    Some of the settings you’re changing are new to you if your blog was a blogspot blog - but now that you have your own domain it opens up the possibility of FTP so you can publish to your domain rather than to BlogSpot.

    Then it’s republish and head over to your WordPress control to click the import there.

    11. Eolaí on May 2nd, 2007 at 7:26 pm
  12. I’m going through the pain at the moment, and I agree with almost all the advice here. The reason I say almost is because I don’t understand the rest of it.

    Blacknight are good, and if you want your domain to be anonymous, you could try Namezero.com.

    One thing I’m finding a bit of a pain in the arse. I ended up with thousands of categories though I only use about a dozen of them for my page. Still haven’t come up with a clean way of deleting the rest.

    The other thing is, you should probably get any pictures hosted on photobucket or flickr rather than on your host’s server.

    Also, the WordPress editor isn’t great, but there are several good alternatives. Google “wordpress offline editor”.

    12. Bock the Robber on May 4th, 2007 at 12:43 am
  13. Bock - Excellent advice on image storage and editors.

    I suspect the Kav lad had a similar headache with categories - He likes to create a new category for each post. Suggestions, Kav?

    The quickest way would be to do it in the database, but you will need to know some SQL, or know someone who does. From an initial look, the table in need of attention is wp_post2cat.*

    Do you really have thousands, or is that an exaggeration? If there aren’t too many, you could display them as a Cloud. I have 41 and they fit on 14 lines using the cloud.

    Or just don’t display them at all.

    *Something like this:
    UPDATE wp_post2cat
    SET category_id=X
    WHERE category_id=Y

    Here, X is the ID number of the category you don’t want any longer and Y is the one you want instead. You can find out the ID number corresponding to the category name in the wp_categories table.

    13. Primal Sneeze on May 4th, 2007 at 5:01 am
  14. My problem was that I made up new tags in Blogger as I thought appropriate. I have a box in the Blogger sidebar that selects posts based on various tags, and I have about a dozen headings in it.

    As you say, the right thing to do would be to take the categories off the page. However, I wouldn’t have the slightest idea what to do with the code you quoted. I’ll have to see if my geek can do it.

    Another thing that comes up is the blogroll. Some people, including myself, like to have it in sections. MAybe one section for regular contributors, another for items of interest and so on. It gets very long, and I’m trying to get drop-down boxes for it instead of long lists. I’ll let you know how I get on with that.

    14. Bock the Robber on May 4th, 2007 at 8:26 am
  15. Bock - Your geek will know what to do. I had a look on the codex for a drop-down links widget and there is one there. You are laughing!

    On the same page there is a widget called Category Replacement. I haven’t looked too closely at either but they may be the solution for you.

    15. Primal Sneeze on May 4th, 2007 at 9:00 am
  16. My geek is a lazy fat bastard who’s too interested in rugby and women. My geek has a life, which is bad news for me.

    I need a geeky geek who loves pizza and coffee.

    16. Bock the Robber on May 4th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
  17. Damn. I actually had a real question, and there I am complaining about my geek. (Time to wake up the geek).

    Here’s my real question for whoever thinks they know the answer. you know when you put all these internal cross-references into your Blogger posts? Well, do those references carry across when you import it into WordPress?

    Also, I notice that all the pictures come across, but they’re still hosted on Blogger, which doesn’t strike me as a good thing. After all, when I finally make the move, I’ll have to delete all but one of the old Blogger posts - isn’t that right?

    Note to Flirty!! Don’t close down your Blogger site. Terrible hijackers will hijack it!!

    17. Bock the Robber on May 4th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
  18. Mine didn’t, Bock. The internal links and images still pointed to the old site. But as they were few in number and of little importance I just ignored them. Maybe someone else has a quick fix.

    You don’t have to delete all the posts on Blogger. Deleting them is just a way of forcing traffic to your new site and of tricking Google into dropping its links to the old site.

    People - Ideas for the Bockster, please!

    18. Primal Sneeze on May 4th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
  19. Yeah. You see, I thought it would be a great idea to increase the richness of my site if I made loads of cross-links. And in fairness, it worked. People dug deep into the content instead of just flipping through the latest posts.

    Ah bollocks. Now I’ll have to do it by hand.

    [Nothing new there - the plain people of Ireland]

    19. Bock the Robber on May 4th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
  20. For anyone interested, WordPress has just released version 2.2. The great thing is that it has Blogger.com import facility.

    20. Primal Sneeze on May 16th, 2007 at 6:55 am
  21. Whoops, late to the thread. For future switchers from Blogspot to WP I’d recommend doing what’s called “301 redirects” for your internal links. 301 is a code like the way 404 is a code for page not found. 301 tells Google, Yahoo,and the boys that your page has moved, and it’s not coming back.

    Let’s say you have fifty pages on your site that you regularly reference internally, so regularly in fact that you reference them a total of 300 times.

    You could put fifty lines of code in your .htaccess file where on each line you are telling the search engines that your old filename for the page has permanently changed to the new filename for your page.

    If you start with your most popularly linked to pages and work your way downwards, you can make serious headway into it manually. If you have thousands of links that need updating, the solution is the same but you’d want to look into scripting to perform the functions for you.

    21. Eolaí on May 17th, 2007 at 11:45 am
  22. Just wanted to add, the Hosting365.com free Blog plan is now at http://www.blogs365.org/ and includes a ‘one click installer’ jobbie to make wordpress go (installs and set-up the database and the default wordpress application ready to go). We will also offer some migration assistance and are available 24/7 by phone, email and livechat to help :)

    HTH, Stephen

    22. Stephen on July 11th, 2007 at 11:26 am

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