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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
		<link>http://www.primalsneeze.com/2007/08/22/back-to-school-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha! Nice one, Eolaí. That&#039;s set me up for the day.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1246&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha! Nice one, Eolaí. That&#8217;s set me up for the day.
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		<title>By: Eolaí</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eolaí</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he learned something himself, in that practical hands-on lab kind of way.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1245&#039;,&#039;Eola&#195;&#173;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he learned something himself, in that practical hands-on lab kind of way.
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medbh - That can be the case too. A poor tradesman blames his tools and so on.

Also, we did have some demonstrators who were instructing outside their area of expertise simply for the money. In our case, they could not be lumped into the grouping you mention, as they were upfront about it.

Flirty - Never make me angry. You wouldn&#039;t like me when I&#039;m angry.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1244&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medbh &#8211; That can be the case too. A poor tradesman blames his tools and so on.</p>
<p>Also, we did have some demonstrators who were instructing outside their area of expertise simply for the money. In our case, they could not be lumped into the grouping you mention, as they were upfront about it.</p>
<p>Flirty &#8211; Never make me angry. You wouldn&#8217;t like me when I&#8217;m angry.
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		<title>By: irishflirtysomething</title>
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		<dc:creator>irishflirtysomething</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remind me never to piss you off.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1241&#039;,&#039;irishflirtysomething&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remind me never to piss you off.
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		<title>By: Medbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Medbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many of those shitty instructors adopt the affronted posture of having to deal with &quot;thickos&quot; just to mask their own lack of confidence or expertise with teaching.  I&#039;ve seen it time and again.  They suck in the classroom so they try to make it out that students are the problem.  It&#039;s disgraceful.  Good for you, Primal.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1237&#039;,&#039;Medbh&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many of those shitty instructors adopt the affronted posture of having to deal with &#8220;thickos&#8221; just to mask their own lack of confidence or expertise with teaching.  I&#8217;ve seen it time and again.  They suck in the classroom so they try to make it out that students are the problem.  It&#8217;s disgraceful.  Good for you, Primal.
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		<title>By: aonghus</title>
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		<dc:creator>aonghus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hands-on is key&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But bad habits are more easily learned than good. Which is where the demonstrator/tutor comes in.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1234&#039;,&#039;aonghus&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hands-on is key</p></blockquote>
<p>But bad habits are more easily learned than good. Which is where the demonstrator/tutor comes in.
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		<title>By: fatmammycat</title>
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		<dc:creator>fatmammycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He deserved it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1233&#039;,&#039;fatmammycat&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He deserved it.
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grannymar / Aonghus - Let me make the point again that this behaviour was prevalent among some, not all. There were a number of fantastic demonstrators who took pleasure and pride in their work.

Yes Grannymar, education is no excuse for bad manners ... don&#039;t get me started on hospital consultants, solicitors ... I&#039;ll stop now.

Very true Aonghus. As with all technical disciplines, more is learned during a few hours lab work than all lectures and study put together. Hands-on is key.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1232&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grannymar / Aonghus &#8211; Let me make the point again that this behaviour was prevalent among some, not all. There were a number of fantastic demonstrators who took pleasure and pride in their work.</p>
<p>Yes Grannymar, education is no excuse for bad manners &#8230; don&#8217;t get me started on hospital consultants, solicitors &#8230; I&#8217;ll stop now.</p>
<p>Very true Aonghus. As with all technical disciplines, more is learned during a few hours lab work than all lectures and study put together. Hands-on is key.
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		<title>By: aonghus</title>
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		<dc:creator>aonghus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fair point, well made.
Hope it works for other students even when you are not around!

So much of producing good IT workers depends on a sort of apprenticeship that having good demonstrators should be mandatory.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1221&#039;,&#039;aonghus&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fair point, well made.<br />
Hope it works for other students even when you are not around!</p>
<p>So much of producing good IT workers depends on a sort of apprenticeship that having good demonstrators should be mandatory.
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you PS.

It is more than time people stood up and spoke up to bad manners, service, and lack of respect.

I have been known to rant that &#039;Education is no excuse for bad manners&#039;!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1219&#039;,&#039;Grannymar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you PS.</p>
<p>It is more than time people stood up and spoke up to bad manners, service, and lack of respect.</p>
<p>I have been known to rant that &#8216;Education is no excuse for bad manners&#8217;!
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