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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better late than never I suppose.

Well enjoy this year&#039;s Ecclestones - I assume you&#039;re heading south for them.

I read some back in July and it was Fianna Fáil that was jumping out at me. Haven&#039;t gone back admittedly. Specialist blogs, with the exception of tech, don&#039;t hold my attention.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6617&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better late than never I suppose.</p>
<p>Well enjoy this year&#8217;s Ecclestones &#8211; I assume you&#8217;re heading south for them.</p>
<p>I read some back in July and it was Fianna Fáil that was jumping out at me. Haven&#8217;t gone back admittedly. Specialist blogs, with the exception of tech, don&#8217;t hold my attention.
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		<title>By: James Lawless</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Lawless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-5670&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Primal Sneeze&lt;/a&gt; - 
Primal for reasons unknown I am only noticing your reply now.. and I&#039;ve still got that cough..

3. yes I was indeed, good night out and thanks to the venerable mr. mulley for pulling it together

4. er no, not sure if you&#039;ve read the blog, the &#039;Fianna Fáil landscape&#039; probably crops up occasionally but is not or certainly not intended to be the dominant theme.. it&#039;s a part personal, part political musing on what one particular activist gets up open to the online floor for discussion.. exactly the local lack of which you were lamenting no? Or are we damned if we do, damned if we don&#039;t?!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6612&#039;,&#039;James Lawless&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-5670' rel="nofollow">@Primal Sneeze</a> &#8211;<br />
Primal for reasons unknown I am only noticing your reply now.. and I&#8217;ve still got that cough..</p>
<p>3. yes I was indeed, good night out and thanks to the venerable mr. mulley for pulling it together</p>
<p>4. er no, not sure if you&#8217;ve read the blog, the &#8216;Fianna Fáil landscape&#8217; probably crops up occasionally but is not or certainly not intended to be the dominant theme.. it&#8217;s a part personal, part political musing on what one particular activist gets up open to the online floor for discussion.. exactly the local lack of which you were lamenting no? Or are we damned if we do, damned if we don&#8217;t?!
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-5668&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@James Lawless&lt;/a&gt; - Technical notes:

1. No mention of &lt;i&gt;glossy A4 ... election material&lt;/i&gt; here. Reread the third last paragraph again, with particular reference to cost centre.
2. &lt;i&gt;... Aine at least she gave it a go ...&lt;/i&gt; Nearly never bulled a cow.
3. &lt;i&gt;‘Best Political Blog at the Irish Blog Awards’ nominee&lt;/i&gt;. Were you? I hadn&#039;t noticed. Then I am not a big fan of these awards.
4. &lt;i&gt;... the political landscape and what we get up to here in the Naas/Sallins/Kill beltway&lt;/i&gt;. You mean the Fianna Fáil landscape surely?
5. Get something for that cough. I wouldn&#039;t like to see you end up on a trolley.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5670&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-5668' rel="nofollow">@James Lawless</a> &#8211; Technical notes:</p>
<p>1. No mention of <i>glossy A4 &#8230; election material</i> here. Reread the third last paragraph again, with particular reference to cost centre.<br />
2. <i>&#8230; Aine at least she gave it a go &#8230;</i> Nearly never bulled a cow.<br />
3. <i>‘Best Political Blog at the Irish Blog Awards’ nominee</i>. Were you? I hadn&#8217;t noticed. Then I am not a big fan of these awards.<br />
4. <i>&#8230; the political landscape and what we get up to here in the Naas/Sallins/Kill beltway</i>. You mean the Fianna Fáil landscape surely?<br />
5. Get something for that cough. I wouldn&#8217;t like to see you end up on a trolley.
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		<title>By: James Lawless</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Lawless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Primal Sneeze and how you doin. On a technical note if Aine sent you a glossy A4 containing election material it&#039;s unlikely to be a taxpayer expense - the current system sees candidates foot most their own costs which breeds inequity in democracy and in my view should be reviewed but that&#039;s another days work.. Back on the blogs, in fairness to Aine at least she gave it a go which is a lot more than can be said for most other politicians inside the lilywhite lines. We can&#039;t all be &#039;Best Political Blog at the Irish Blog Awards&#039; nominees (cough :) ) and blog regularly about the political landscape and what we get up to here in the Naas/Sallins/Kill beltway.. (double cough ;) )..jameslawless.ie.. Feel free to stop by!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5668&#039;,&#039;James Lawless&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Primal Sneeze and how you doin. On a technical note if Aine sent you a glossy A4 containing election material it&#8217;s unlikely to be a taxpayer expense &#8211; the current system sees candidates foot most their own costs which breeds inequity in democracy and in my view should be reviewed but that&#8217;s another days work.. Back on the blogs, in fairness to Aine at least she gave it a go which is a lot more than can be said for most other politicians inside the lilywhite lines. We can&#8217;t all be &#8216;Best Political Blog at the Irish Blog Awards&#8217; nominees (cough <img src='http://www.primalsneeze.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and blog regularly about the political landscape and what we get up to here in the Naas/Sallins/Kill beltway.. (double cough <img src='http://www.primalsneeze.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )..jameslawless.ie.. Feel free to stop by!
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		<title>By: problemchildbride</title>
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		<dc:creator>problemchildbride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opportunities that new media offers politicians are amazing: a chance to present your own case without some reporter misquoting you; a way to get fresh ideas from people who live with the results of your work;  a chance to show you can handle yourself when challenged; a chance to hear about things you never even realised were problems; a chance to show they are truly invested in what they do; a chance to &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; be a representative.

There are downsides for sure, but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Politicians should embrace the internet as the powerful tool it is, not shy away from it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5514&#039;,&#039;problemchildbride&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opportunities that new media offers politicians are amazing: a chance to present your own case without some reporter misquoting you; a way to get fresh ideas from people who live with the results of your work;  a chance to show you can handle yourself when challenged; a chance to hear about things you never even realised were problems; a chance to show they are truly invested in what they do; a chance to <i>really</i> be a representative.</p>
<p>There are downsides for sure, but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Politicians should embrace the internet as the powerful tool it is, not shy away from it.
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gayé ~ Yes, jumped in, or perhaps was pushed in. Either way not knowing what she was getting into.

It only lasted through the election. Once elected it was simply ignored - at least her posters on the telephone poles were taken down.

Suzy ~ I&#039;d dearly love to read that!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5513&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayé ~ Yes, jumped in, or perhaps was pushed in. Either way not knowing what she was getting into.</p>
<p>It only lasted through the election. Once elected it was simply ignored &#8211; at least her posters on the telephone poles were taken down.</p>
<p>Suzy ~ I&#8217;d dearly love to read that!
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		<title>By: Suzy Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzy Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for reminding me of the blogiversary... I have Aine&#039;s RSS feed subscribed to but it didn&#039;t budge...and she was not alone in that regard in the past year. IN fact it might be time for an Irish Election review of politicians blogs and the state of them...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5512&#039;,&#039;Suzy Byrne&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for reminding me of the blogiversary&#8230; I have Aine&#8217;s RSS feed subscribed to but it didn&#8217;t budge&#8230;and she was not alone in that regard in the past year. IN fact it might be time for an Irish Election review of politicians blogs and the state of them&#8230;
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		<title>By: gaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Primal, that last paragraph explained it all, I see what you mean. I suppose she jumped into it thinking everyone will just roll over and let her rub their bellies just because she was enthusiastic in the beginning. Oh well, parachute jumping is not for you if you fail the first time...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5511&#039;,&#039;gaye&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primal, that last paragraph explained it all, I see what you mean. I suppose she jumped into it thinking everyone will just roll over and let her rub their bellies just because she was enthusiastic in the beginning. Oh well, parachute jumping is not for you if you fail the first time&#8230;
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam ~ A blog, or similar, would indeed provide excellent real-time feedback. Trolls are easier handle than a heckler at a political rally.

What I like about the idea of political blogs is that citizens can hear what other citizens have to say. (I am jumping into Gayé&#039;s comment now, but) isn&#039;t that cost effective? If one citizen poses a question 100 others wish to ask the politician offers one answer - rather that than responding 101 times by phone, email or letter.

Let me give you a non-blog example of cost effective communication:

Kildare County Council host a forum and issues raised on it are, where relevant (i.e. of concern to many) are replied to by the Council PR. They also provide an online feedback form.

The Council PR also fields the forum and form issues during his weekly stint on local radio. Naturally more issues come in then via text, phone and email.

Mr. Talbot is also brilliant at handling trolls. He recently replied to a caller to the show who complained his question submitted on the feedback form was not acknowledged by asking &lt;i&gt;which of the 200 or so you sent last week are you referring to, or is it one of the 200 from the previous week?&lt;/i&gt;

Gayé ~ Cost/time issue covered in reply to Sam.

The traffic was not heavy. When I said &lt;i&gt;much more feedback&lt;/i&gt; it was in the context of 10 comments being much more than 4.

Heavy traffic is a non-issue anyway. When comments become excessive they are not answered individually. They don&#039;t need to be. One response can cover a multitude. (See Bock, Twenty etc.)

The Internet can get &lt;i&gt;convoluted, loud, noisy and out of control&lt;/i&gt; for sure. So too can political rallies, hustings, public meetings etc.

What really galled me in this case is what Maman Poulet remarked on in comments on that blog: An election candidate telling us how she would use the medium to engage with constituents; expressing delight at the prospect; yet not understanding it in the slightest; then running away crying when it turned out not to be what she thought; and blaming everything and everyone else for her failure to learn how blogging works and the benefit it can bring.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5510&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam ~ A blog, or similar, would indeed provide excellent real-time feedback. Trolls are easier handle than a heckler at a political rally.</p>
<p>What I like about the idea of political blogs is that citizens can hear what other citizens have to say. (I am jumping into Gayé&#8217;s comment now, but) isn&#8217;t that cost effective? If one citizen poses a question 100 others wish to ask the politician offers one answer &#8211; rather that than responding 101 times by phone, email or letter.</p>
<p>Let me give you a non-blog example of cost effective communication:</p>
<p>Kildare County Council host a forum and issues raised on it are, where relevant (i.e. of concern to many) are replied to by the Council PR. They also provide an online feedback form.</p>
<p>The Council PR also fields the forum and form issues during his weekly stint on local radio. Naturally more issues come in then via text, phone and email.</p>
<p>Mr. Talbot is also brilliant at handling trolls. He recently replied to a caller to the show who complained his question submitted on the feedback form was not acknowledged by asking <i>which of the 200 or so you sent last week are you referring to, or is it one of the 200 from the previous week?</i></p>
<p>Gayé ~ Cost/time issue covered in reply to Sam.</p>
<p>The traffic was not heavy. When I said <i>much more feedback</i> it was in the context of 10 comments being much more than 4.</p>
<p>Heavy traffic is a non-issue anyway. When comments become excessive they are not answered individually. They don&#8217;t need to be. One response can cover a multitude. (See Bock, Twenty etc.)</p>
<p>The Internet can get <i>convoluted, loud, noisy and out of control</i> for sure. So too can political rallies, hustings, public meetings etc.</p>
<p>What really galled me in this case is what Maman Poulet remarked on in comments on that blog: An election candidate telling us how she would use the medium to engage with constituents; expressing delight at the prospect; yet not understanding it in the slightest; then running away crying when it turned out not to be what she thought; and blaming everything and everyone else for her failure to learn how blogging works and the benefit it can bring.
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		<title>By: gaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bit torn about this, on one hand I think that a blog written by a politician would be a good opportunity to mingle with his/her constituents... On the other hand I think it would be further waste of time and the very same constituents tax moneys. If the traffic on a site as you mention Primal is heavy as I imagine it to be, reading the comments let alone trying to reply to them would require a full time blogger and the politician who is already failing to do a good job in producing solutions to issues, will simply live in front of the computer and do nothing else. 
If I were a politician who really wanted to do something that made sense as far as blogsphere is concerned, I would subscribe to the well-written political blogs, and well-voiced opinion blog posts and read read read. 
Internet is a terrible medium of communication as it can get too convoluted, loud, noisy and out of control to establish a healthy online politician - constituent blog affair. 
My 0.01 cents.
G
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit torn about this, on one hand I think that a blog written by a politician would be a good opportunity to mingle with his/her constituents&#8230; On the other hand I think it would be further waste of time and the very same constituents tax moneys. If the traffic on a site as you mention Primal is heavy as I imagine it to be, reading the comments let alone trying to reply to them would require a full time blogger and the politician who is already failing to do a good job in producing solutions to issues, will simply live in front of the computer and do nothing else.<br />
If I were a politician who really wanted to do something that made sense as far as blogsphere is concerned, I would subscribe to the well-written political blogs, and well-voiced opinion blog posts and read read read.<br />
Internet is a terrible medium of communication as it can get too convoluted, loud, noisy and out of control to establish a healthy online politician &#8211; constituent blog affair.<br />
My 0.01 cents.<br />
G<br />
PS: Using firefox and Edit Comment works wonderfully.
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