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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still laughing at another from your list:

Q: Where was the American Declaration of Independence signed?

A: At the bottom.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7169&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still laughing at another from your list:</p>
<p>Q: Where was the American Declaration of Independence signed?</p>
<p>A: At the bottom.
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. I&#039;ve seen that happen. The times I&#039;ve taken stuff to those shops I always asked &quot;would you be interested in ...&quot; and tried show what I had. Each time I was thanked and told bring it on in and at no time did anyone bother to check.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7168&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I&#8217;ve seen that happen. The times I&#8217;ve taken stuff to those shops I always asked &#8220;would you be interested in &#8230;&#8221; and tried show what I had. Each time I was thanked and told bring it on in and at no time did anyone bother to check.
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		<title>By: Primal Sneeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primal Sneeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it was the Sallins crew on Frontline. Their flood situation was compounded by other factors - the developer is gone bust; three management companies run the estate; the council are unlikely to take it in charge any time soon. They are in limbo.

But unlike the areas you mention, they received extensive coverage. They and Johnstown are close to Dublin and easily accessible by the camera crews from RTÉ.

Fault? Yes, of course it will rain and of course there will be floods. That&#039;s nature. But when flooding happens where it never did before, or when development is permitted in locations prone to it, then there is blame to be laid.

Bottom line: Fuck with nature, and you are fucked.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7167&#039;,&#039;Primal Sneeze&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was the Sallins crew on Frontline. Their flood situation was compounded by other factors &#8211; the developer is gone bust; three management companies run the estate; the council are unlikely to take it in charge any time soon. They are in limbo.</p>
<p>But unlike the areas you mention, they received extensive coverage. They and Johnstown are close to Dublin and easily accessible by the camera crews from RTÉ.</p>
<p>Fault? Yes, of course it will rain and of course there will be floods. That&#8217;s nature. But when flooding happens where it never did before, or when development is permitted in locations prone to it, then there is blame to be laid.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Fuck with nature, and you are fucked.
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did! This old dame is all hot air and would just float off.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7166&#039;,&#039;Grannymar&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did! This old dame is all hot air and would just float off.
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		<title>By: Rummuser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rummuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To lighten up a bit:

This is a question asked in an examination in the UK and the answer by a brilliant student.

Q: Name one measure which can be put into place to avoid river flooding in times of extensive rainfall(e.g. in Mississippi).

A: flooding in areas such as the Mississippi many be avoided by placing a number of big dames into the river.

I hope that Grannymar gets to see this.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7165&#039;,&#039;Rummuser&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To lighten up a bit:</p>
<p>This is a question asked in an examination in the UK and the answer by a brilliant student.</p>
<p>Q: Name one measure which can be put into place to avoid river flooding in times of extensive rainfall(e.g. in Mississippi).</p>
<p>A: flooding in areas such as the Mississippi many be avoided by placing a number of big dames into the river.</p>
<p>I hope that Grannymar gets to see this.
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those unscrupulous donors are no different to the people who flounce into charity shops with sacks full of donations.  It is only when they are gone and open the bags that you discover the clothes have legs and bite!

The security guard on the skips intrigues me... in fact the whole thing smells - pun intended.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those unscrupulous donors are no different to the people who flounce into charity shops with sacks full of donations.  It is only when they are gone and open the bags that you discover the clothes have legs and bite!</p>
<p>The security guard on the skips intrigues me&#8230; in fact the whole thing smells &#8211; pun intended.</p>
<p>Stay dry my friend.
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		<title>By: Conan Drumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conan Drumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very curious poser, Mr Sneeze.
Let&#039;s start with the security guard. Who would have hired him? The management company? Insurers? Why would he have been hired?

There were some very irate and vocal folks from an estate in Sallins (I think) on the Frontline programme on the floods. They were out for blood, justifiably. In Athlone there were cases of looting reported where houses had been evacuated.

Part of the problem in badly flooded areas was sewage floating about in three foot of water, that would turn virtually everything on the ground floor in a house into a biological hazard, particularly to young children.

As a broader observation on the flooding, it was far more widespread than the focus on local hardship would suggest. Only high aerial views of the Shannon catchment from Leitrim to Limerick would give a full picture of the scale of the problem. I know places still flooded that have had no coverage.

Considerable infrastructure has been damaged (roads, waterworks, electricity supply) in areas with no reported flooding crisis. The focus instead has been on &#039;blame&#039;, as if the fault can be laid at some authority&#039;s door. Farmers are particularly good at that

The flooding is nobody&#039;s fault, so to speak, but the authories do now have to deal with the reality that certain roads are going to be under three feet of water (unless they are raised), and certain pumping stations are going to be submerged (unless they are moved) and so on, or they can just cross their fingers and pray it doesn&#039;t rain as heavily ever again.

Having had three of our usual routes cut off, and a third &#039;passable with care&#039; I&#039;m now paying close attention to the contours on the map and the whereabouts of the usually free-flowing streams that turned into lakes covering huge acreages under several feet of water.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;7163&#039;,&#039;Conan Drumm&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very curious poser, Mr Sneeze.<br />
Let&#8217;s start with the security guard. Who would have hired him? The management company? Insurers? Why would he have been hired?</p>
<p>There were some very irate and vocal folks from an estate in Sallins (I think) on the Frontline programme on the floods. They were out for blood, justifiably. In Athlone there were cases of looting reported where houses had been evacuated.</p>
<p>Part of the problem in badly flooded areas was sewage floating about in three foot of water, that would turn virtually everything on the ground floor in a house into a biological hazard, particularly to young children.</p>
<p>As a broader observation on the flooding, it was far more widespread than the focus on local hardship would suggest. Only high aerial views of the Shannon catchment from Leitrim to Limerick would give a full picture of the scale of the problem. I know places still flooded that have had no coverage.</p>
<p>Considerable infrastructure has been damaged (roads, waterworks, electricity supply) in areas with no reported flooding crisis. The focus instead has been on &#8216;blame&#8217;, as if the fault can be laid at some authority&#8217;s door. Farmers are particularly good at that</p>
<p>The flooding is nobody&#8217;s fault, so to speak, but the authories do now have to deal with the reality that certain roads are going to be under three feet of water (unless they are raised), and certain pumping stations are going to be submerged (unless they are moved) and so on, or they can just cross their fingers and pray it doesn&#8217;t rain as heavily ever again.</p>
<p>Having had three of our usual routes cut off, and a third &#8216;passable with care&#8217; I&#8217;m now paying close attention to the contours on the map and the whereabouts of the usually free-flowing streams that turned into lakes covering huge acreages under several feet of water.
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